Monday, October 27, 2014

Troll Feeding: My response to Abby.

After my previous two posts I had a woman I don't know respond on a Facebook post I had made.  I wanted to take a few moments to quickly respond here.

"I went to mosiac when I found out I was pregnant. They never spoke to me about religion."

I am very glad you found the support you needed at Mosaic PHC, I am quite sure that the world needs organization that offer all kinds of opinions.  I will say though, that you testimony makes them liars to the many 100s of people who support their ministry.  I have spent quite a lot of time on their website and Facebook these past few days and their claim is every woman is "shared the gospel of Christ"  If this did not happen, that means you were used, since the organization is making claims about your experience that are not true.

They spoke about the safest practices. Abstinence. 

Perhaps if you had read my posts you would see that I have no issue with abstinence.  You are correct that unless you're theotokos abstinence works; so long as it is practiced.  The issue is when it is no longer practiced.  See evidence shows that abstinence education programs do not stop teens from having sex, it only leaves them unprepared when the time comes where they do begin sexual activity.

They gave real facts about stds and plan b. How BC hormones can harm you. They are well educated and great educators. 

Sorry, you lost me on the "how birth control is harmful" and great educators.  You're going to have to choose one or the other.  Again, that pesky evidence keeps popping up.  Rumors about the harmful effects of birth control have been debunked repeatedly.  In the medical world lying about a drug causes you to lose your license and livelihood;  generally speaking under that threat people do not hide the real facts.  It does creep in and it is quickly rooted out and repudiated. This is the real facts.

Yes they are faith based. So what! I was offered a Bible when I left.  I'm glad they were there.

I have no issue with Faith based organizations. I am glad you were offered a Bible as you left. I am also glad you found the support you needed in a difficult time.  Different people have different needs, and I am glad you found the place which met your needs.  In political philosophy we call this "free association."  Free association is the right of individuals to form social contracts and the freedom for the individual to secede from those contracts when they no longer seem beneficial to the individual.  I have certain social and religious institutions that I also practice free association with.  So long as the terms of the social contract with a faith based organization is rooted in free association I support that organization.

People need to chill out.

I'm going to skip this one, since in the entire basis of your point is that this organization has the right to it's message, but I do not have the right to respond.  That seems both disingenuous and hypocritical.  I am sure the ability to write such a lengthy response with out actually reading my posts demonstrates you are not the kind of person who fires off disingenuous and hypocritical rants, so we will just pretend it is not there.

 I'm sorry but its ok to talk about condoms and sex but not about abstinence and religion.

Once again, if you had actually read my posts there is NOTHING against abstinence or religion in
either of them.  The problem with programs like this is they violate the "free association" that I wrote about earlier.  When a particular religion is given preference in the secular classroom that violates the free association of religion.  My religious view differ from the instructors. Fortunately there is medically accurate evidence based  material available for the classroom; and everyone is left to teach their values in a free association environment.

Open your eyes people, we need more religion in our world...cuz its blowing up with out it!!!

You feel the world is "blowing up" because it needs more religion.  I think Martin Luther King Jr more accurately surmised the state of the world when he said, “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.”  I think what the world needs is love and justice. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.  

I am going to keep demanding for justice.


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